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Thread: Descent: Journeys in the Dark (Second Edition):: General:: A Question of Fairness

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by ryanjamal

Last night I had quite a memorable gaming session, but at the end I am left with a question about how to resolve an issue and thought I'd see what others thought.

We were playing our last Act II quest of the LoR campaign, Tipping the Scales, and due to some horrible luck and occasional poor play, I was against the ropes and the heroes were near victory. The heroes need to add weights of equal amounts to two different locations, and they only needed to place the last weight and they would win. Logan took the weight from another hero and moved into position. Next turn is all I'd have, and I need three lucky breaks.

Luck favored me, at last, and I was able to eke out a win. However, after we had packed up we were discussing the quest and something occurred to me. I looked at the quest rules again and realized that Logan could have placed the weight in his last turn (we had thought that taking the weight from the other hero was an action, but it wasn't, leaving him a last action to place it). Cursed by honesty, I conceded that we had misplayed and we looked over if there was anything I could have done. I talked about playing grease trap to put Logan out of the way or out of commission, but we realized that even if I had been successful, the trap wouldn’t move him enough away and wouldn’t kill him (side question: can heroes move through other heroes with a grease trap, assuming they have enough movement to end in an empty space? We assumed that they could.). But we never had him roll the dice, but if he had and had passed the test, he would have had to suffer a fatigue, which is what he used for his final movement point to be in place to drop the weight.

The issue is that I didn’t realize this until this morning, after looking at the card again. So, is it fair, in your minds, for me to ask for a roll of the dice to finally determine a victor?

Arguments for:
-I did concede defeat after we had packed up the quest, so perhaps the heroes should be similarly lenient.
-We didn’t actually play out the results as we should have last night, and if we had and the card had been in front of me as I played it, I would have (I think) caught the loss of fatigue.
-It’s not like I’m wanting to play any extra cards or anything new. I just want to play out what we talked through as we should have originally.
-I hate losing :-) 

Arguments against:
-In the words of one of the hero players, this is essentially Monday morning quarterbacking. The statute of limitations on dealing with this ended once they left the house (In response, I would say I would have conceded defeat whenever I realized it).
-I should have forced the roll last night and noticed it last night. Not doing so is on me.
-The heroes haven’t won many quests, and this gives them a chance for winning the campaign, which makes for a more competitive and perhaps more enjoyable finale.

Ultimately, whatever I and my other players agree upon is fair, if we can come to an agreement. And I’ll probably concede if I can’t convince one of them to vote my way (they’re a fair group, but of course this is a hard issue to decide without personal interest clouding both sides). But still, what do you guys think? What would be fair in your eyes?
-ryanjamal

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